Star Citizen - Squadron 42 trailer [Space Sim]

Got my 300i so far, probably will do the same as Snippers and upgrade later for the hornet.

Sorry to dash your dreams but CR said in an AMA that carriers will not be used in persistent multiplayer. He ended with a "not yet anyways". In vanilla MP Freelancer there were no capital ships you could fly but modders made it possible. A little bit shoddy with the collision boxes as they could not be changed, but possible. Maybe if people beg/nag/threaten enough and propose decent advantages and disadvantages then we might see official player-owned carriers. If not CR, then hopefully modders.



Here is the excerpt:
I am Chris Roberts, creator of Wing Commander, Freelancer and the upcoming Star Citizen. AMA. by CommanderRobertsin IAmA
[–]CommanderRoberts[S] 4 points 5 minutes ago

I think everyone is getting over excited about the possibility of owning a carrier!
For the persistent universe we're not going to let players have one of those (yet anyway). Probably the max size on player controlled capital ships will be a destroyer. And a few fighters / bombers working together could take it out.



It is sad that CR does not want carriers in multiplayer. Personally, I always wanted a clan carrier that could be used for docking/repairing purposes. They also make for great rally points, immersion and big targets. Here are some of my ideas.

Green = Advantages
Red = Disadvantages

• Carriers may dock with stations that have docking tethers so the pilot can log out. That way the carrier does not need to be protected 24/7 even in non-PVP systems.
  
• Players are able to dock with the carrier for repairs and a brief respite of flying. When the player logs back in he can undock from the carrier or the base the carrier is docked with.
  
• Carriers would have to be able to stand up to some heavy missile fire before going down but not against a dedicated assault. Those being capital ships or several squadron of bombers. Bombers in that case could only carry small amounts of the hard hitting, slow torpedoes.
  
• Because it is a capital ship it also has several forward facing torpedo tubes (2?) so it has some teeth against single capital ships. Like the bomber it would have to be so slow that it can be intercepted. (off-topic: A common pool for torpedoes on the carrier and bombers for some extra synergy would be cool)
  
• A pilot may dock with the carrier to take command of a battery of guns. In the absence of a player the AI may take over with consent of the pilot.
  
  
• Carriers would have to dock with stations to buy ship repair items to have some sort of cost. Battlefield repairs would then use these vague repair items. Running out of those means no repairs for the fighters and no ship repairs for the carrier. Repairing would have to take some time, around 5 minutes for a heavily damaged fighter sounds good.
  
• There would always be a need of a CAP around the carrier and a patrol of fighters going around for scouting information. This promotes teamwork and adds to the list of disadvantages.
  
• NPC boarding ships, ordered by player-owned capital ships, would be nice to disable key systems of the ship but not to take it completely over. Makes things interesting. Talking about disabling systems, destroying the engine could cripple the speed but not disable it completely.
  
• Because it is an extremely useful support ship it would have to be prohibitively expensive so that no one man that has a life could get one (read: excluding botting ofcourse).
  
• The player-owned carrier could be a lot smaller than the one shown in the campaign. Only taking up 20-30 fighters maximum sounds like a good start.

So you see there are some really cool advantages and disadvantages to owning a carrier if properly implemented. Losing one is a devastating loss to the account of a clan but it does have its perks. I for one hope to see one of these mastodons majestically flying and secretly commanding one. (read: OK, I am nerding out!)


If he does concede to people requesting carriers then he had better not turn it into a stretch goal! 4 million for player-owned light carriers, that would be the day.

About to hit the first stretch goal on Kickstarter Backers will get a repair robot from the start

-edit
Yay, reached

Da-Fort wrote:Sorry to dash your dreams but CR said in an AMA that carriers will not be used in persistent multiplayer. He ended with a "not yet anyways". In vanilla MP Freelancer there were no capital ships you could fly but modders made it possible. A little bit shoddy with the collision boxes as they could not be changed, but possible. Maybe if people beg/nag/threaten enough and propose decent advantages and disadvantages then we might see official player-owned carriers. If not CR, then hopefully modders.



Here is the excerpt:
I am Chris Roberts, creator of Wing Commander, Freelancer and the upcoming Star Citizen. AMA. by CommanderRobertsin IAmA
[–]CommanderRoberts[S] 4 points 5 minutes ago

I think everyone is getting over excited about the possibility of owning a carrier!
For the persistent universe we're not going to let players have one of those (yet anyway). Probably the max size on player controlled capital ships will be a destroyer. And a few fighters / bombers working together could take it out.



It is sad that CR does not want carriers in multiplayer. Personally, I always wanted a clan carrier that could be used for docking/repairing purposes. They also make for great rally points, immersion and big targets. Here are some of my ideas.

Green = Advantages
Red = Disadvantages

• Carriers may dock with stations that have docking tethers so the pilot can log out. That way the carrier does not need to be protected 24/7 even in non-PVP systems.
  
• Players are able to dock with the carrier for repairs and a brief respite of flying. When the player logs back in he can undock from the carrier or the base the carrier is docked with.
  
• Carriers would have to be able to stand up to some heavy missile fire before going down but not against a dedicated assault. Those being capital ships or several squadron of bombers. Bombers in that case could only carry small amounts of the hard hitting, slow torpedoes.
  
• Because it is a capital ship it also has several forward facing torpedo tubes (2?) so it has some teeth against single capital ships. Like the bomber it would have to be so slow that it can be intercepted. (off-topic: A common pool for torpedoes on the carrier and bombers for some extra synergy would be cool)
  
• A pilot may dock with the carrier to take command of a battery of guns. In the absence of a player the AI may take over with consent of the pilot.
  
  
• Carriers would have to dock with stations to buy ship repair items to have some sort of cost. Battlefield repairs would then use these vague repair items. Running out of those means no repairs for the fighters and no ship repairs for the carrier. Repairing would have to take some time, around 5 minutes for a heavily damaged fighter sounds good.
  
• There would always be a need of a CAP around the carrier and a patrol of fighters going around for scouting information. This promotes teamwork and adds to the list of disadvantages.
  
• NPC boarding ships, ordered by player-owned capital ships, would be nice to disable key systems of the ship but not to take it completely over. Makes things interesting. Talking about disabling systems, destroying the engine could cripple the speed but not disable it completely.
  
• Because it is an extremely useful support ship it would have to be prohibitively expensive so that no one man that has a life could get one (read: excluding botting ofcourse).
  
• The player-owned carrier could be a lot smaller than the one shown in the campaign. Only taking up 20-30 fighters maximum sounds like a good start.

So you see there are some really cool advantages and disadvantages to owning a carrier if properly implemented. Losing one is a devastating loss to the account of a clan but it does have its perks. I for one hope to see one of these mastodons majestically flying and secretly commanding one. (read: OK, I am nerding out!)


If he does concede to people requesting carriers then he had better not turn it into a stretch goal! 4 million for player-owned light carriers, that would be the day.

I'm aware of the fact that a bengal class (carrier shown in the vid) would be a logical problem:
a bit oversized for "commercial" use, no government would allow privateers to have ships as big as (or bigger than) their own army. the size you described seems reasonable. let me get to your plus-minus-list:

• Carriers may dock with stations that have docking tethers so the pilot can log out. That way the carrier does not need to be protected 24/7 even in non-PVP systems.
  theese tethers would have to be either in a non combat zone, a heavy fortified station or something like that. since when do pirates and outlaws care about rules?
  hide them in an astroid field, in a particle fog or something like that. leave them in open space beyond scanner range at coordinates known only by ship users.
  
  
• Players are able to dock with the carrier for repairs and a brief respite of flying. When the player logs back in he can undock from the carrier or the base the carrier is docked with.
  
• Carriers would have to be able to stand up to some heavy missile fire before going down but not against a dedicated assault. Those being capital ships or several squadron of bombers. Bombers in that case could only carry small amounts of the hard hitting, slow torpedoes.
  
• Because it is a capital ship it also has several forward facing torpedo tubes (2?) so it has some teeth against single capital ships. Like the bomber it would have to be so slow that it can be intercepted. (off-topic: A common pool for torpedoes on the carrier and bombers for some extra synergy would be cool)
  remember starlancer
  an attack on a capital must be allways planed ahead and planned well:
  - gather intel (longrange scans, asking out players, trading intel, scout missions)
  - make plan (according to class of capital, weaponry, fighters in it, weakpoints, your own forces)
  - get players involved (own clan, friends, even hire mercs)
  - pull it off!
  
  
• A pilot may dock with the carrier to take command of a battery of guns. In the absence of a player the AI may take over with consent of the pilot.
  you might have to hire a crew of NPCs for that. the more you hire, the more functions are in place when you have to "abandon" the ship. increases cost also obviously, so you have to use the ship as semi-freighter to maintain it.
  
  
• Carriers would have to dock with stations to buy ship repair items to have some sort of cost. Battlefield repairs would then use these vague repair items. Running out of those means no repairs for the fighters and no ship repairs for the carrier. Repairing would have to take some time, around 5 minutes for a heavily damaged fighter sounds good.
  price to pay for a big ship, so plan ahead.
  
  
• There would always be a need of a CAP around the carrier and a patrol of fighters going around for scouting information. This promotes teamwork and adds to the list of disadvantages.
  promoting teamplay is a disadvantage? in a game that lives from social behavior and conflicts? how is that a bad thing?
  
  
• NPC boarding ships, ordered by player-owned capital ships, would be nice to disable key systems of the ship but not to take it completely over. Makes things interesting. Talking about disabling systems, destroying the engine could cripple the speed but not disable it completely.
  or even spy work, sabotage and stuff
  
  
• Because it is an extremely useful support ship it would have to be prohibitively expensive so that no one man that has a life could get one (read: excluding botting ofcourse).
  depends on how efficiant you trade. if trading the right goods in the right place, you might make millions.
  
  
• The player-owned carrier could be a lot smaller than the one shown in the campaign. Only taking up 20-30 fighters maximum sounds like a good start.
  no disadvantage for me seen here. 20 should be WAY mor than enough.
  if more needed, buy second carrier.
  

i hope there will be the opportunity of carriers, right away or in the future

ok, update time!

you guys browsing their website should look at the fics written there, "Spectrum Dispatch".
it tells storries about the SC universe and your options of actions and equipment included.

latest one striped down to facts

- changable IDs for one player: confirmed
- stealth techniques: confirmed
- deadly rockets (not only toys): most likely
- private (non-government) trading hubs: confirmed



Pledgers know now:
snippers
deadly
kerre
f3rit
rohzkov(u might know him, day z regular)
the airblade(myself:D)
da-fort (doing his pledge soon)
theshaydeeone

There is an IAMA on Reddit which is supposedly Chris Roberts. I don't think it has been "confirmed" yet, but it's a good read nonetheless. Link

Player_1 wrote:There is an IAMA on Reddit which is supposedly Chris Roberts. I don't think it has been "confirmed" yet, but it's a good read nonetheless. Link

confirmed: http://www.robertsspaceindustries.com/ask-chris-anything-again/

BTW: Jet, are you onboard?


Update time:

Alien race reviealed: the Xi'An



http://www.robertsspaceindustries.com/meet-the-xian/

I hope you can play as them, haven't read the link yet

I dropped him some monies, so I'm in!

kerrermanisNL wrote:I hope you can play as them, haven't read the link yet

nope... well, not initialy, maybe on later updates

UPDATE: reached 2,5mil --> playable ship anvil gladiator (civilian variant from heavy military bomber)


Pledgers known by now:
snippers
deadly
kerre
f3rit
rohzkov(u might know him, day z regular)
the airblade(myself:D)
da-fort (doing his pledge soon)
theshaydeeone
captain
heavyweather

I got my money from work so I pledged now

ExeTick wrote:I got my money from work so I pledged now

i know exactly what you will do. headhunter, the lonewulf edition, waiting people out till they feel safe, then headshot them into space


Pledgers known by now:
snippers
deadly
kerre
f3rit
airblade
da-fort
theshaydeeone
captain
heavyweather
exetick
rohzkov

we'll need a BIG ship

now I probably try to play with others

even if I want to go alone.

I feel like being a pirate or smuggler somehow.. I'll probaply end up a good guy though

update: reached 3,25mio$

- new ship available: MISC Starfarer, a big liquid goods freighter
- star system unlocked: Orion (Weapon test/trade/smuggle system)
- star system unlocked: Tyrol (research system short before supernova, outlaw territory)

citizen cards are in the making, pics of the white, green and bronze ranks can be seen on the website

update: reached 3,4 mio$

- star system unlocked: Goss (binary stars with nebula around, tourist point, also hiding place for pirates)
- star system unlocked: Kellog (jungle world with rare animals, prison planet, strong police)

They're doing well.

Mang, I want to see the 4 million mark for Pro mod tools !

YAY!!! CHRISTMAS FOR ME! They revealed the blueprints of one ship
Remember, still WIP, ship and especialy the fighter will be way more detailed when finished.
but its enough for me now, enjoy




when seeing the fighter dock, i doubt you can fit a bigger one in...


"S-foils on attack position"


"S-foils on cruise position"


P52 fighter (inspired by the jedi fighter, i think)


inside the turret


side cut


the bridge


from bridge over living area into fighter dock


docking bay/freight storrage


when fighter is released


sleeping area


blue prints

This game is shaping up to be amazing

Update time (hell, they're making progress fast)

reached 3.932.648$ in this very moment

- new ship available: AD Retaliator (strategical bomber/medium freighter/basic explorer)
- new base type available: the smugglers asteroid
- star system unlocked: Cathcart (ancient galactic junkjard, no natural planets, pirate area)
- star system unlocked: Tal (Xi'An Empires factory system, large industry)
- star system unlocked: Geddon (volcanic world, home to the Banu protectorate(aliens?), chemical exports)
- star system unlocked: Ellis (tuning/cutomizing area, space races, fuel refinery)

and a new design to drool at

The RSI Freelancer (early design study)

Holy cow. 4 million dollars with 2 days left. It is true what they said. Crowdsourcing is a marathon and the last couple of days are the sprint to the finish. If you have enough people interested that is. This has now been unlocked.

• 45 missions
  
• 50 star systems
  
• Persistent universe
  
• Drake Cutlass (new ship)
  
• Enhanced boarding (melee, upgradeable HUDs, zero-g external combat, Mag-boots)
  
• Increased community updates (and webcasts)
  
• MODDING TOOLS

Now the last 0.5 million would be nice to have. You can pilot cruisers if that stretch goal is reached. The last million adds a new base type and adds more systems, up to a total of 70, extended flight-sim support (think Track-IR and MFDs). Some more stuff is in between that is quite nice.

But as it stands the 4 million dollars has doubled the original goal of 2 million. With the private investment (10 million, I think) of Chris Roberts this game is going to be a very nice title. For those of you whom have not pledged yet you still have 2 more days. But I would not blame you if you want to wait until the actual game release. The game has an expected release year of 2014.

Here is a video of preliminary AI work. Mostly flying in formation.
This may look like simple AI to you but this stuff usually gets shown behind closed doors to publishers and investors.
For now it looks like it is possible to change formation on the fly. Also some effects like the lasers are WIP.
http://vimeo.com/53321312


Crowdsourcing campaign video for the last week.
http://vimeo.com/53293424


For those of you who have pledged but want a little bit more out of the game. Here are some add-ons you can buy for your game. You should still be able to buy the add-ons post-funding. There is no rush on this one. Personally I am going to buy the skins, the physical map and the soundtrack to the game.
https://www.robertsspaceindustries.com/add-ons/

Wow i have to say I didn't expect it to reach 4 million untill I saw the score yesterday. They really got a lot of money the last couple of days.. Yay!

guys, snippers just sent me this:

Congratulation Citizens! Your dedication to the cause is impossible to deny. Working with the imperial fleet shipyards, I have secured one final lofty stretch goal for you: if we can reach the previously impossible $5.5 million level, then the Bengal carrier will be playable in the finished game. It will be very difficult to earn a Bengal… but when you do, it will be an amazing base for clans, squadrons and guilds. Can we get there?

In first place they said, carriers will be available, but the bengal remains in squadron 42 (so the single player) and the UEE space fleet (so NPCs).
Now we would get them, if goal is reached...



Remember: the Bengal is this! (next to the bridge is a man-sized pendant)

And they want to get 1,3 million in 2 days? I wish them luck No way that's going to happen (though I would like to be proven wrong)

I hate him now.

Last 23 hours!

I've added one of the skins to my basic pledge.

Da-Fort wrote:I hate him now.

Why's that?

because he(Chris Roberts) is tempting us...
i can understand da fort.

btw: 4,8 mio as i post

Update time: Reached 5,2mio$ and still 14,5hours to go... Bengal class, here we come
no kidding, i realy think they can do it!

Features:
- Squadron 42 will be 50 missions long
- persistent universe will be, at startup, as big as privateer was in his days: 70 star systems to explore
- besides the UEE (United Earth Empire, humans) four alien races so far: Xi'An (friendly-neutral, no conflict known), Vanduul (hostile), Banu (unknown by now, but seem to be not hostile) and Kr'tak (no intel at all)
- inventory maintainance can be done by app for tablets


Unlocks since my last update, some allready mentioned by da fort

- new ship available: Drake Cutlass (pirate ship, has tractor beam)
- new ship available: Drake Caterpillar (modulatable armored freighter, "evil twin" of the freelancer)
- new ship available: Origin M50 (highspeed interceptor, low armor, tiny weapon loadout)
- new alien race: the Kr'tak (intel follows)
- new base type available: alien derelict (more intel to come as i get it)
- star system unlocked: Stanton (terraformed planets, owned by private companies, good trading ground)
- star system unlocked: Nul (dead system, slave market)
- star system unlocked: Kilian (UEE Navy training grounds, fleet constrution grounds)
- star system unlocked: Hadrian (traversing system between UEE and Xi'An teritory, strictly limited flying grounds)
- star system unlocked: Chronos (Synthworld project location, allways in need for building matrerial)
- star system unlocked: Kallis (infant system, high scientific research area, might be jump points to find)
- star system unlocked: Hades (gravejard of ancient civilization that destroyed themselves in a systemwide civil war)
- star system unlocked: Trise (home of Banu leads, the "Council")
- star system unlocked: Eealus (first Xi’An Empire’s prime nature preserve, three others existant, one as backup, two kept secret)
- star system unlocked: Oso (trading hub for all kinds)

Some more AI progress. They dynamically avoid asteroids, fighters and capital ships.
http://vimeo.com/53745615

EDIT: 150 000 dollars to go for the 5.5 million stretch goal with 12 hours left.

150K with 11Hours... damn this is goin fast!

Here is an early view on a spaceport.
http://vimeo.com/53829036#


The Bengal carrier can be boarded and taken over on multiplayer. This is what I heard on the livestream here:
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/croberts68

20 000 dollars left with 9 hours left. Bengal carriers, here we come!


EDIT: 5.5 million hit on 8 hours and 30 minutes!

500 bucks to go

DONE! We have the BENGAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111!1one
Happy days, Santa came early this year!

Da-Fort wrote:Some more AI progress. They dynamically avoid asteroids, fighters and capital ships.
http://vimeo.com/53745615

Just....wow....its beautiful

Hornet pledged for, I just couldn't stop myself! haha. As pledge ships come with a 'lifetime insurance' meaning if you lose them have a new one. Where as ships bought in game won't have that.

Really looking forward to this, going to have to a X52 pro and all sorts. I think a new rig is also in order (I should add not just for this game haha).

Snippers wrote:Hornet pledged for, I just couldn't stop myself! haha. As pledge ships come with a 'lifetime insurance' meaning if you lose them have a new one. Where as ships bought in game won't have that.

Really looking forward to this, going to have to a X52 pro and all sorts. I think a new rig is also in order (I should add not just for this game haha).

AWWWWW YEEEE! will never loose ma constellation


note to self

things to buy til game release:
- new rig
- oculus rift
- saitek X52 pro done

what else boys?

Good as time as any to buy track ir.. Though if you have the oculus rift it's kind of pointless.

I'd much rather just play it with my mouse and keyboard. Especially if it's going to be involving cutting engines and weapons that have some form or traverse.

6 million dollars with an hour to spare. 100 systems, orchestral score (read: I love these) and a free copy of the first Squadron 42 mission disk, Behind Enemy Lines. I am not sure what the last one is. I believe it to be a SP expansion. Maybe more stuff but their site is being swamped by people refreshing the page. Maybe Airblade can give us more information.

Yeah, they did it! $6 million.

And for those of us who've already pledged during the crowd sourcing stage, we can buy more ships and add-ons for the next year at the same prices, with lifetime insurance!

What about pledges? Good news: those of you who got in on the ground floor are covered. Your ships have lifetime insurance policies and for the next year you will have the ability to purchase further tiers or upgrade existing ones at the initial prices. That's not true of everyone else: if you want to back Star Citizen and participate in this amazing community, you still can. but it's going to cost you a little extra as of now, and you aren't going to have as many extras (no lifetime insurance, for example.)

6 Million!

i'm sooooo baffled by this game, pledge, crowd sourcing, life insurance WTFFFFF



looks good though

On the SC website Behind Enemy Lines is a 16 mission campaign in the style of The Secret Missions.

fund ended with 6.238.563 US Dollars... about 2.1mio more than the recent leader of the highest crowdfunded games ever. All ground pledgers can even upgrade their pledge in the next year. Within the last day, some people did... they are now corrected the fund to 6.366.485$

and now we will have, among all previous updates, 100 starsystems, orchestral score and a free copy of Squadron 42 - Behind Enemy Lines, the first add on for the single player. Like if 50 SP mission weren't enough...

never had a game i was looking mor forward to.

Update: with corrected pledges and the grace period we now have 7mio USD for the game developement. Simply unbelievable!

now to the real ignition for this update: Chris revealed the early 3D model of the MISC Freelancer. So... enough text, here we go:

So I forgot I had not posted here yet. During the grace period I pledged for the Constellation Mk3 (the ship Chris has). If my next salary gets handed over to me I'm going to see what else there is for sale =P

Loving what I've seen so far!

the new SC forum is online now. lets all register and form up the NwA section!

This one? http://www.robertsspaceindustries.com/forum/

Let's do it!

Nice Google Docs spreadsheet containing most of the stats for the smaller ships.

Not entirely sure that all this data is 100% correct (and it can of course change during development of the game), but it gives a good impression of what is known so far.