Clan Battle PRTA - Smurf

Sorry to be pushy guys.....

Smurf/Tit4Tat made a mention on PRTA server feedback about this, I've tried to contact him here and on PR Forums to no avail just wanting to see if you've got any news - if it's likely or not, if not we will look for a new enemy, but I'd rather like to lose our virginity with you guys - be gentle please.

Out, Plod

we are defiantly up for it ploddit if you ever have troubles contacting smurf please do not hesitate to get hold of me i am in xfire whenever my pc is turned on. we would however like a few dates that u guys will be willing to play on and how many players u are gonna have ect
cheers

Midget

For us it's best a Friday from 25th May onwards because lots of the young uns have exams...

I expect we will be able to field 32, but whatever we can both manage we'll do the same amount.

Servers not a problem - but we gotta sort out a map!

our match server is allready set up so indeed no problem there map will all depend on player count we will see how many we can get and get back to you with that after 25th may sounds fine just what time is gonna be good as it seems ur guys time zones are all over the place

cheers

Midget

Our guys are mostly euros' so any US guys are going to have to have the afternoon free.

I'd say 1800/1900PRT 1900/2000GMT 2000/2100CET

As we are a community with smaller clans amongst us we will probablly have half our squads as clans we have had Quu(US), BSP (Euro), Team Chode (Brainlaag), and one or two from 3dac demand a squad.

The other half should all be irregulars with no clan.

rgr that mate just talking now with other members propose a date of the 3rd of june

A sunday right?

I'll check it out and let you know by tomorrow.

Thx

Hello Plod,

ive been afak and will be for abit due to rl, ive spoke to midge and he will be the man overseeing this untill my humble return .

for members/barracks:
Ill give midge all the info i know regarding upcoming matches etc.

OK seems we agree with Sunday 3rd June.

Now map choice, IMHO a map without make or break asset importance figuring that the skill levels of two players, or lag or CTD will affect the whole team.

We've had Pavlosk inf and Shijia alt mentioned.

We had burning sands mentioned.

One of us has to pick the map so if PRTA is challanging than you should choose map and we will pick side? or vise versa if you dont want to choose map.

Please let us know your decission.

OK Burning Sands Accepted....

Can we be Brit?

Enjoy, the 4 tanks, 2 BMP, 2BTR, 30mmMTLB .......

Sorry it takes so long, but as we're all over the place everything takes ages!

rgr see u on the battlefeild

as Midge already said "roger doger". Beating a team that thought they are picking a winning side "Brits" tastes that much sweeter. <-- Is that cocky enough for you Plod?

2 Things:

1. Quite alot of my guys love the soundmod would it be OK to use a SM server? You guys (and me) don't have to use it ofc. As far as I can see it gives no advantage to either side those with or without.

2. Any rules or regulations or respect we've gotta agree on regarding rushing/flag cap order - other dodgy s**t - suiciding for ammo (one PRT) can't think of much else.

Ploddit i'm gona take a break from this one but Midget will takeover for this clan match, i've spoken to him and he hasen't got a problem with it.

Just to answer your points:

1. I dont see a problem with using SM server as long as its stable.

2. Yes, in previous matche's there was a mutal agreement on rule's to be stuck to on the day. I'm sure you and midge will discuss them as thing's progress.

Cheers

ploddit do u have x fire?

Yes Ploddit,

but not on it much

So is this confirmed for the 3rd of june ?

I think this is confirmation enough

Not sure ask Midge.

scotty u bandit



Please stem dont post in these type of thread's if you have a question about this ask me or midge.


Can this be a clean unclogged thread.


p.s Guy's this aint a Sign up so please hold your urge to let us know that you wont be there.

just one round, is it?
how bout the losing team has a chance of rematch in a style like THIS:

BOXING MATCH IN THE PIT OF DEATH!!!
Rules:
- both teams 1 mumble room, just local speech (to push their own player / diss opposite)
- evryone civi but 1 medic (trainer)
- 3 contestants each team
- contestant fights till downed, can be revived, but he is out if dead >> next contestant

and when winning (and whining) team is clear, here comes the great final:
BATTLE ROYALE! (till one team is down)





Just a little idea by myself, nothing we have to

That was fun there tonight xD are plan was to seed we ended up boxing in the pit of death!

This is a fantastic idea Chris BUT!

NwA vs NwA

- Viglen's squad v's Midget's.
- MasterG's v's The dutchy's.

one fighter from each squad fights to the death until it comes down to the SL's. rrr that s**t would be brilliant.

You spammers.

I think one round will be more than enough. boxing after purely optional.

Yes 100% confirmed - we have our squads sorted - we have 32 plus a load of reserves. We have a SM running server standing by. Many of our team have admin onit - if you guys need it shouldn't be a problem though I don't see why.

Re Ruleset rushing. I notice on the YT of your battle your initial inf deploy took you to very close to your 3rd flag (SB) and at one point you were on SB when NB was MEC.
By this I am assuming we're not having any antirush rules.
Issue might be with Crashsite flag on Blue AAS route for you and Oil refinery/fields for us. Both are 2nd/4th flag and very easy to rush/ambush.
Also we must agree about any behind enemy lines ambush techniques.



I don't care I just want to ensure we're both aware of it.

Will GS be joining you once again?

If only we can predict the layout...

Yes we definatly would want anit-rush rules...period. Rushing SB as US or NB as MEC is fair game as your taking massive risk's and the proximity between 2 flags is very close.

Its hard to set rush rules due to maps e.g saying to MEC that they cant rush NV but they can flank east is contradicting your self because thats basically attacking the main supply line of US at the begining i.e rushing.

The best thing Plod is for you and midge to get on ts or xfire and have a chat about rules and rushing/behind enemy lines.

Regarding who will be joining us as Mercks for the battle will be known to you in game but yes we will be using different clan/s for the match.

We could force an AAS route - I have by doing runnexts for intel and planning purposes...But I prefer the random element and three plans myself....

Blue is the only one with major temptations to rush/ambush.

We aren't OD-S but hell we all want to win.

hey ploddit to keep the rushing rule simple i would like you to agree with this rule : DO NOT RUSH YOUR OPPONENTS 1ST CAPABLE FLAG IN TILL THE AAS MODE ALLOWS YOU TO CAPTURE THE FLAG

this is the only rushing rule i propose and i be leave it is the only one we need

Well we're ok with that - but that does leave it very open.
In blue for example we can rush crashsite and you can rush oilfields/refinery with that pesky MTLB 30mm.


I'm Ok with that but that ruling does mean we're both open to rush each others second flag which on blue could be .... interesting.

Lets not talk to many tactics with the enemy shall we ?

PRTA EU02 BattleServer SM0.4
Tonight 1830 PRT


Password: See Midget
mumble and soundmod available

remember to tell everyone that soundmod is available, but not required

When you get into awaiting reg ill set you up with moving permissions.

Thanks very much guys I enjoyed that alot.
even though I was CO.....

would of been nice to let us know about constant UAV and stuff like that running on the server not cool really

y it f*****g sucked. we had to figure it out by our own.

it was unfair to not let us know.

Hey Ploddit, thanks for the match mate. You guys kicked arse (though I also secretly agree with midge and exe for a bit )

MIDGET wrote:would of been nice to let us know about constant UAV and stuff like that running on the server not cool really

=GS= was secretly outraged at this

ForceEcho wrote:

MIDGET wrote:would of been nice to let us know about constant UAV and stuff like that running on the server not cool really

=GS= was secretly outraged at this

You GS guys did good at keeping the tanks alive shame we lost and stuff, and just wish you guys woulda shot their tanks in the city a lil more but was laughing when I asked you to blow up that apc and you were like "WHERE" and I was saying "ITS RIGHT DOWN THE ROAD INFRONT OF YOU"

Fuggut wrote:

ForceEcho wrote:

MIDGET wrote:would of been nice to let us know about constant UAV and stuff like that running on the server not cool really

=GS= was secretly outraged at this

You GS guys did good at keeping the tanks alive shame we lost and stuff, and just wish you guys woulda shot their tanks in the city a lil more but was laughing when I asked you to blow up that apc and you were like "WHERE" and I was saying "ITS RIGHT DOWN THE ROAD INFRONT OF YOU"

I personally wasnt there but I speak on behalf of the great slorg.

ah tell him he owes me money

I checked before that we weren't running the DB games mods.

When I, as CO was up in the UAV ( I only used it after about 1 hour), I noticed that it was bugged but at that time I saw a all chat message from someone on your side talking about it.

What 'other stuff' was there rallies were unaffected didn't think there was anything else?

We didn't know till later, but it was s**t true

Modified content. Over looked by who ever set up the server. Shame really, i call result void.

You can give us another ass kicking when you fix the server.

A CO not using the UAV for the first hour ok if you say so.

I never played last night, just commenting on how uncool it is to have on team not know you was running DBs changes.

Personally Ploddit I find it hard to blame you, but instead think that the organiser on the NwA side should have specifically checked for no mods and specifically questioned the rules.

If I was invited to the clan fight and told that the commander would have a constant UAV up, I would either have joined with a wall hack or simply not joined at all.

A real game breaker if you ask me.

I'm sorry but I agree with orford.

We did lose 3 Sl's including myself as tank sl but that wasent a problem. When you have an organised fight you make sure both parties know everything that there is too know, constant uav is MASSIVE advantage in PR hence why its limited as your providing constant live information of enemy position and movement to your own team. I'm positive if we knew about this we would of had a CO from the start.

I'm sorry but being CO from the start and not using uav for an hour or so sounds like porkies to
me.

slorg25 wrote:Personally Ploddit I find it hard to blame you, but instead think that the organiser on the NwA side should have specifically checked for no mods and specifically questioned the rules.

If I was invited to the clan fight and told that the commander would have a constant UAV up, I would either have joined with a wall hack or simply not joined at all.

A real game breaker if you ask me.

Slorg, The clan hosting the server is responsable in telling the guest clan what they intend to run over and above the agreed rules. How can NwA be held resposable for a server Config we have no acces too. We as guest are taking PRTA at there word that the agreed rules will be the rules we play to. As it turned out either by over sight or not, they never told us they were running modded files.

It is PRTAs responsability to set up the server as they was hosting, in no way can NwA be blamed for some one elses .con file.

We would never agree to play a clan match with DB's MOD as most of the lads have never played it as we dont run it on any or our servers.

May be a bit harsh, its just a game, I just hate the win win win thats creeping into PR this is a game for mature tactical players and not COD. I dont feel the need to cheat or misleed people to have fun.

I hope most of the players were unaware of what was going on and had fun.

I agree that the UAV thing is a joke, and should definitely be considered for a future re-match.

I didn't mean to cause any offence Orford.

Personally I wasnt there, but I blame slorg for being sh*t as Pectuss correctly observed.

I am sure PRTA is more than happy for a rematch, I feel a bit uneasy with our victory because of this debacle regarding the DBzaos changes.

Although it was pointed out to me that you didn't even appoint a commander and that you only found out because Sincoza signed up as commander after an hour of gameplay.

Regardless, it really does bring shame to our victory.

Danger I would also like to point out that you (or someone in PRTA) kicked me as SL of an infantry squad severely limiting our tactical movement, also you made us wait the full 10mins which could have been avoided by someone with enough server permissions (of which I am sure there was present) to type "!pb restart" which would of solved the issue and let me rejoin. If I am honest I think it is absolutely f*****g diabolical that you kicked so wantantly and didn't rectify your mistake, if you had waited maybe another 30s or 1min then we could have sorted out why there was an extra player.

Oh and I wasn't AFK, I crashed on loading into your modified server and had to rejoin.

Delta, it was not I who kicked you but to be honest I would have kicked you for the following reason:

1) we were waiting on our CAS pilot who dced. You clearly didn't have the organization for this match as you had 33 players on the server for a good few minutes which limits our team play, (it's not just you guys getting frustrated, please be aware...)

2) The chat logs show that your team mates were telling us you were afk:

[20:07 SQUAD 4 ] Danger_6[R-Coy]: !st them you have 1 player too many
[20:07 GLOBAL ] ploddit: jnwa you got 33
[20:07 SQUAD 4 ] Danger_6[R-Coy]: !s brits have 1 too many player
[20:07 TEAM 1 ] *NwA* fillsson:
[20:07 GLOBAL ] *NwA* Sincoza: delta is afk
[20:08 GLOBAL ] ploddit: kik him ok?
[20:08 GLOBAL ] xiReality[R-Coy]: we need a space
[20:08 GLOBAL ] *NwA* Sincoza: delta isnt in a squad so assume hes afk
[20:08 GLOBAL ] *NwA* Mr.Arked: kick himw

So it's not like we randomly chose a player to kick. We gave you many chances to tell us who to kick but after 3 minutes you still had not told us who to kick therefore we chose to kick the afk. That's what any admin would do.

[20:11 SQUAD 3 ] [PRTA] GP_MineralWouter: !k delta now


There was no response from any one in your team apart from a few guys telling us you were AFK. We could not wait any longer for a response, we are trying to get our team organized too. I hope you can understand that by the kick you received we weren't trying to limit your team's gameplay. Your comms were too poor so we had to make the decision for you.

Danger_6 wrote:Delta, it was not I who kicked you but to be honest I would have kicked you for the following reason:

1) we were waiting on our CAS pilot who dced. You clearly didn't have the organization for this match as you had 33 players on the server for a good few minutes which limits our team play, (it's not just you guys getting frustrated, please be aware...)

2) The chat logs show that your team mates were telling us you were afk:

[20:07 SQUAD 4 ] Danger_6[R-Coy]: !st them you have 1 player too many
[20:07 GLOBAL ] ploddit: jnwa you got 33
[20:07 SQUAD 4 ] Danger_6[R-Coy]: !s brits have 1 too many player
[20:07 TEAM 1 ] *NwA* fillsson:
[20:07 GLOBAL ] *NwA* Sincoza: delta is afk
[20:08 GLOBAL ] ploddit: kik him ok?
[20:08 GLOBAL ] xiReality[R-Coy]: we need a space
[20:08 GLOBAL ] *NwA* Sincoza: delta isnt in a squad so assume hes afk
[20:08 GLOBAL ] *NwA* Mr.Arked: kick himw

So it's not like we randomly chose a player to kick. We gave you many chances to tell us who to kick but after 3 minutes you still had not told us who to kick therefore we chose to kick the afk. That's what any admin would do.

[20:11 SQUAD 3 ] [PRTA] GP_MineralWouter: !k delta now


There was no response from any one in your team apart from a few guys telling us you were AFK. We could not wait any longer for a response, we are trying to get our team organized too. I hope you can understand that by the kick you received we weren't trying to limit your team's gameplay. Your comms were too poor so we had to make the decision for you.

at the time he got kicked he was already loaded into game and playing ;p