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Post by Viglen Mon 6 Jun - 21:35:04



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Post by capitan Mon 6 Jun - 21:37:46

HAWT. will be a nice change of pace from PR/ArmA

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Post by bJN.uk Mon 6 Jun - 21:48:53

Watched the whole BF3 set in the conference, looked awesome!

Literally can not wait for this game to come out. Will be epic beyond all epicness!
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Post by Viglen Tue 7 Jun - 0:26:18

Sorry i meant 25th
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Post by speedhound1-WYD- Tue 7 Jun - 0:46:12

the multi player vid looks exactly like COD, whatever rocks your boat i suppose.

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Post by Viglen Tue 7 Jun - 1:31:54

Speed check the Tank Trailor i added in the first post i know its single player BUT this is the first BF vannila that doesnt have the massive bullet drop when firing tank rounds

Although that map "Operation Metro" looks very cod like im sure there will be massive maps aswell where teamwork and communication will prevail

dont think we can write of BF3 just yet its gonna be no PR nothing realeased on a commercial scale ever will be but still it looks fun :D
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Post by Stealthgato Tue 7 Jun - 1:33:52

Looking seriously good. Definetly a must get.
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Post by speedhound1-WYD- Tue 7 Jun - 3:13:00

funnily enough i wasn't being sarcky, if you like very fast paced fps' then go for it. but i have thought of somethings regarding your post vigs, when bf2 was relatively new there actually was a lot of teamwork on it, many players had come from a novalogic background that made sense of the squad system etc, but it didn't last, yeah ok it would be fair comment to say clan play remained fairly team based but public servers ? no, teamwork just completely disappeared, at least COD actually released game modes like free for all etc. apart from certain scales involved how is bf3 different from bad company ? and why hasn't bad company held peoples attention? your right about commercial offerings probably never rising to PR type teamwork but they could at least strive for it but instead, and this is only my opinion, they (activision, dice etc) threw that goal out of the window when they saw how much console ported gaming could make them. bf2 was probably the last FPS commercial game that tried to achieve higher goals and in my opinion will remain the last game to ever try it. When bf3 has fallen into the forgotten bin because of the new GTA or COD etc people will be left just as perplexed as they are about bad company, but should people be really perplexed ? i can't see that you would have to be overly cynical to work this out, they want your money, these are not games made by gamers, they are games made by suits. sorry for the text wall but there is some conflict in my missus lappy that does this...also i don't see this as a rant rather a mourning, could someone please un-invent the X-Box.... Battlefield 3 Realeased October 25th 867979

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Post by bullyhouse Tue 7 Jun - 5:51:44

it looks epic. way better than cod. wonder if they gonna have multi-player tank maps??

with all the plane and tanks, and building destruction availabel in BF3, its gonna take some teamwork just to stay alive.
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Post by Bounty Tue 7 Jun - 6:14:40

They did karkand....again...
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Post by Zer0 Tue 7 Jun - 8:58:22

cmon...karkand was and still is an intense and cool map...bloody nade/gaymore spamming ruined it..cant wait to get back there:P
Ive read somewhere that on karkand,sharqi,oman and wake, whole comunity spend 25000 years...wow.

BC2 has many flaws...small maps, no VOIP, and more. BF3, hopefully, due to larger scale map and VOIP will be closer to BF2 than to BC2. Any BF release was more teamplay oriented... i mean BF2142,Bf2,BF2142, and now hopefully Bf3.
Lack of modtools is a -, but im still hopefull. Damn...the game looks amazig, like BC2. Hope i don't have to sell a kidney to get a new rig Razz All i want is a Bf2 gameplay with BC2 graphics/effects :D
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Post by Lt.brad Tue 7 Jun - 9:15:21

speedhound1-WYD- wrote:funnily enough i wasn't being sarcky, if you like very fast paced fps' then go for it. but i have thought of somethings regarding your post vigs, when bf2 was relatively new there actually was a lot of teamwork on it, many players had come from a novalogic background that made sense of the squad system etc, but it didn't last, yeah ok it would be fair comment to say clan play remained fairly team based but public servers ? no, teamwork just completely disappeared, at least COD actually released game modes like free for all etc. apart from certain scales involved how is bf3 different from bad company ? and why hasn't bad company held peoples attention? your right about commercial offerings probably never rising to PR type teamwork but they could at least strive for it but instead, and this is only my opinion, they (activision, dice etc) threw that goal out of the window when they saw how much console ported gaming could make them. bf2 was probably the last FPS commercial game that tried to achieve higher goals and in my opinion will remain the last game to ever try it. When bf3 has fallen into the forgotten bin because of the new GTA or COD etc people will be left just as perplexed as they are about bad company, but should people be really perplexed ? i can't see that you would have to be overly cynical to work this out, they want your money, these are not games made by gamers, they are games made by suits. sorry for the text wall but there is some conflict in my missus lappy that does this...also i don't see this as a rant rather a mourning, could someone please un-invent the X-Box.... Battlefield 3 Realeased October 25th 867979

Thrue, but games by gamers just need mod tools that's all.
The only shame is that they won't build/release it otherwise there would be mods like PR for BF3.

Mod tools will come back when console gamers are allowed to install modifications, if not we are at the end of an era.

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Post by capitan Tue 7 Jun - 9:19:52

completely agree with you speed,commercial FPS gaming is dying (to me, but thriving for the non-'gamers'), it's all slowly merging into one CoD copying mess. Publishers have seen the f*****g ridiculous amounts of money CoD has been making and they all want a piece of it. The money is there because CoD appeals to a massive audience, the average person, who mostly uses their xbox/ps3 for dvds and only buys one game a year, the new CoD.

DLC has ruined PC gaming as well, hardly anything is released with proper mod support anymore because the publishers wanna milk their franchises for everything they are worth.

don't get me wrong, bc2 held some of my best gamin moments of the last few years, but that was only when i was in a squad of friends, with teamwork. on my own, i hated it. im still looking forward to bf3, because sometimes i do like a bit of the run n gun, jump-in action, and no doubt it'll be a blast with a decent squad interested in some teamwork.

for the niche games that try to do something different, its always gonna be the PC. there are still smaller companies out there trying it, bohemia interactive and tripwire for instance, and im sure there will always be a couple. the glory days are over!

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Post by Viglen Tue 7 Jun - 9:54:35

Anyone else remember when a new patch would have like 4 new maps in it ? now they charge you for the maps in "DLC" the days of PC gaming are numbered and its down to piracy, with eggs box and ps3 you HAVE to buy the game with pc its just so damm easy to pirate no money in PC games so devs opt for console only with maybe at a push a shitty modified for pc version that gives you 20 fps and requires a f*****g xbox controller to play properly

i could go on all day tbh
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Post by capitan Tue 7 Jun - 10:57:05

I don't think piracy is the problem, publisher greed is. It's the same as the music industry, "if people download a million songs thats 10 mililon in lost revenue" .....Bullshit! chances are hardly anyone would have bought those songs anyway. Same goes for PC games.

It's always been easy to pirate PC games. We used to pass round the official unreal tournament disc at school as CD keys didn't exist back then. Nothing has changed. If anything its easier and cheaper to get a hold of PC games legally (steam etc...) Piracy hardly effects sales imo, shite games do!

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Post by Viglen Tue 7 Jun - 14:24:27

capitan without goin to far into i cant remember the last time i bought a pc game. I pirated portal 2 and if that wasnt possible i would of definitely bought it thus vavle lost money, talking of portal 2 that also found its way on the consoles to increase sales pc selling alone is not enough to make the profit publishers like EA and Ubisoft are used to but i believe if not one person pirated a pc game they would make enough and games would be pc only again but i guess greed has something to do with it aswell TBH pc games have been fucked for a long time making me want a console :/ but i try to resist it lol
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Post by speedhound1-WYD- Tue 7 Jun - 15:36:48

one thing that gets glossed over these days is system requirements, one thing i've always enjoyed about online gaming is the diverse nationalities, one reason why bad company didn't take off to well was a lot of people simply couldn't afford the rig to play it on, Bf3 looks like it might be more demanding again.

PC gaming is probably dieing due to PC's dieing, PC's got taken out by lappy's, lappy's got taken out by tablets, soon Phones will.....and with these subsequent tech downgrades the player base for PC gaming dwindles every time, so when Bf2 came out it had a huge market place of people, now ? can't see many tablet owners being able to play Bf3 can you.

will be interesting to see what happens with this, but my guess is that it will mainly be played on consoles, and console kids will ditch it when the next COD comes out.

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Post by Viglen Tue 7 Jun - 16:02:21

Yeah BUT hopefully the kids play it on consoles
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Post by DeK_Thrasher Tue 7 Jun - 16:34:28

it all looks really awesome (note A-10 parts, full on hard on) and like the other Battfield games i will give it a try. If it sticks it sticks and it will void being thrown in the "forgotten bin" if it does slip away and within the year is forgotten about i just hope and i mean REALLY REALLY HOPE that some one like PR will be allowed to pick it up and mod in due time.

Then that would be the game to look forward to. PR but with BF3 GFX.


Seriously the A-10 bit in that tank vid, the sound effects.... my god i hope we can fly them in BF3, surely.
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Post by Da-Fort Tue 7 Jun - 17:18:55

During the tank mission I was thinking how much easier it would be using thermals. Then when the driver(I think) said you had to use thermals I shat my pants.

What type of planes would you be allowed to fly on MP? Thats something I would like to know.
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Post by DeK_Thrasher Tue 7 Jun - 19:10:50

Agreed. Maybe closer to release date they will give a list of all vehicles and weapons and other things of that nature. They have done it in the past.

PR with the frost bite engine would be awesome. i mean the road is to hot to go down? blow a hole in the wall and move through! imagine it!
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Post by Jay Scott Tue 7 Jun - 22:57:08

Dont no if am just a complete PR Junkie?

But i dont think nothing will ever compare to PR! -

Who gives a s**t about nice grafix its the gameplay that am into!

PR forever Speed !!!!
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Post by Robskiet Tue 7 Jun - 23:50:18

^^^^
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Post by Tarranauha200 Tue 7 Jun - 23:56:29

Jay Scott wrote:Dont no if am just a complete PR Junkie?

But i dont think nothing will ever compare to PR! -

Who gives a s**t about nice grafix its the gameplay that am into!

PR forever Speed !!!!

Agreed!
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Post by Viglen Wed 8 Jun - 0:50:08

Thats why i wish devs would concentrate on PR:BF2 i dont give a s**t about arma lol, ppl say there is nothing you can do anymore with bf2 i say BOLLOCKS to that always new maps to make and new factions and s**t ton of bugs to fix the PR audience is massive stay with what your good at i say.
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Post by Eldau Wed 8 Jun - 11:33:34

Viglen wrote:Thats why i wish devs would concentrate on PR:BF2 i dont give a s**t about arma lol, ppl say there is nothing you can do anymore with bf2 i say BOLLOCKS to that always new maps to make and new factions and s**t ton of bugs to fix the PR audience is massive stay with what your good at i say.

And then again Vig, if you do new things and challenges you do get better at what you do and in return will be better if you return doing what you did before. Only thing i find sad about BF3 is the no modding part maps would be fun on PR, but again just tearing down every bulding on the map for bluefor sure is a bummer for ins team.
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Post by Naytdawg Wed 15 Jun - 15:14:13

pre ordered from game today (in the uk) £5 deposit they want now! mind you it apparntly has "exclusive content and early unlocks"
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Post by Bounty Wed 15 Jun - 16:26:08

I love what notch made of the whole thing Notch : "When I get around to making a minecraft movie, ill release special scenes, all different depending on what cinema you go to see it in"
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Post by capitan Wed 15 Jun - 16:46:26

I really don't get what all the fuss is about. So many people bitching that they wont get 3 little weapon things (that aren't even that impressive) because they don't want to buy from a certain retailer. All these incentives/extras are just that....extra. Some people seem to have this sense of entitlement (like people who argue server rules with admins...but thats another story), that everything should be free, regardless of how much work is required to create it. Why shouldn't people be rewarded for preordering???

and what notch said, is it really any different from deleted scenes on DVDs, directors cuts, special editions all having different/extra scenes. Pssh

The only thing that annoys me is that I can't buy it off steam and that the download version is £10 more expensive that the boxed version :wtf:

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Post by deadly22sniper Wed 15 Jun - 19:22:02

Don't care. Want PR:ArmA NOW!!!
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Post by speedhound1-WYD- Thu 16 Jun - 2:48:53

@ capitan, 10 quid extra for a DL ? rich coming from a company (EA) that says it wants to become a DL only company..... @ deadly, it might be sooner than you think, check PR forums homepage.....

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Post by capitan Thu 16 Jun - 9:15:47

I know, its retarded. DLs should be cheaper. Absolutely no production, storage or transportation costs. Im assuming the majority of the cost comes from bandwidth, but really, per download, what is that gonna be, 0.1p???

Greedy c-words!

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Post by Phenakist Fri 17 Jun - 10:31:29

I personally will not be purchasing BF3 until this is rectified because it is out of order completely.
''So many people bitching that they wont get 3 little weapon things (that aren't even that impressive) because they don't want to buy from a certain retailer''
So you can justify people not getting these advantages due to the store they wish to purchase from? How is this fair? How about the people in certain countries who don't even have access to these stores right off the bat, is that OK too?

''All these incentives/extras are just that....extra''
No, they are not extra's, they are parts of the game already developed to then be taken out to be sold as a trophy that only a certain group of player will get.

''Some people seem to have this sense of entitlement (like people who argue server rules with admins...but thats another story)''
I do feel I have a sense of entitlement. Entitlement to the game that was being made during the development stage to be the WHOLE development, not some of it taken off to be sold for more. I also do not see how people arguing server rules is anything of this sort.

''Why shouldn't people be rewarded for preordering???
I agree with you, if a developer wants to make an incentive for pre-ordering, for example Natural Selection 2 gave you black marine armour if you pre-ordered within a certain frame period. This is perfectly acceptable, it is a bit of originality but NOT at the cost of removing gameplay features, mechanics or weaponry, nor does it unbalance the game in any way as it is purely aesthetic. If EA turned around and said 'if you pre-order you will get a cool skin for gun XYZ' I wouldn't have a problem with that.

It was like with Deadspace 2 and the controversy over that nugget of EA's relentless asshole attitude towards their consumer that the information is ALREADY on the disc whilst only being avaliable to console owners, PC gamers eventually got a hold of it because someone hacked a save file, to which EA released a patch to then just give everyone all the free DLC console guns....which ...were .. on the disc!!

''is it really any different from deleted scenes on DVDs, directors cuts, special editions all having different/extra scenes''
Yes it is different. Film directors cut their films for various reasons, one being the cinema experience where the film is deliberately shortened so you are not in the cinema for 4hours with no chance of a break in between. Yes however there are circumstances when film directors will deliberately make a directors cut to make extra money from people who are willing to buy the film on day of release, to then purchase the directors cut after, although I cannot name a case specificity I am sure it has cropped up in the minds of them if you put the effort into finding them.

This is where I would be drawing the line, intention of sales. Did they do it because they saw it was unnecessary, or was it because they wanted to squeeze extra money out of you. In EA's case, it is all down to money with no question about it and I don't see how you could argue it any other way. Here is a link to total biscuit's discussion on the matter if you would like to hear it from someone else.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Kw3AFJmctk

I have little doubt that the game will be bad and in fact I love the Battlefield series, however despite how fun it looks and how graphically pleasing it is, I am NOT willing to bend over backwards, give up my spine and purchase this game and therefore supporting EA's kind of actions as a publisher. If EA did not iron out the issue with deadspace 2 I would have returned that game without question if I had only knew the controversy existed in the first place (Imagine my shock when I saw all these free weapons at the beginning of the game)

If you guys as gamers and consumers have any respect for your own rights you really shouldn't purchase this game either but the choice is really down to you and if you are willing to give up this right just for a good gaming experience that can easily be replaced by a company that won't s**t down your neck whilst taking your money.

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Post by Da-Fort Fri 19 Aug - 17:31:59

No in-game server browser? WHY?!

Speed is right. Games aren't being made by gamers anymore, except for Indie developers. Games were made by gamers so they could play the game themselves.
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Post by Xxghost87xX Fri 19 Aug - 17:40:59

I will not be purchasing this game anymore. This game has just gone F*** the loyal PC community ,lets go for all the 10 year old console gamer and there short attention span needs. FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

And just to think that BF2 is still being bought to this day because of the great way they made it. And all there gonna do now is sell it on mass for about 4 months as a new shiny shooter when in another 6 weeks time call of cr** are gonna release there shiny new shooter and all those shiny things are just gonna be forgotten. Rage over and none of that made sense.
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Post by capitan Sat 20 Aug - 0:58:19

I just wish I had a choice? I'm not gonna lie, Battlelog and joining servers through it was actually kinda good in the alpha. It worked smoothly, I could continue browsing/messing around until the map was fully loaded and it was ready for me to play. Alt + Tab worked perfectly. However, forcing people to do this blows.

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Post by kerrermanisNL Sat 20 Aug - 16:32:47

First I thought that there was no browser at all.. Which isn't the case, just no in game browser.. No biggie if you ask me
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