Some more reality.

I don't know how many of you seen that but I thought it is worth posting for those who haven't to get some perspective.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRx-naFNprk

I was supposed to get to a gig. Now I'm running 5 mins late because I had to watch this.

It gives you a perspective all right. One that every one needs.

As far as sq tactics goes, this is exactly what is done when your in a good sq in PR. Remember one of my 10 first matches or so. Me, Milk, Naytdawk, Snippers and some more were engaged.

Drop down/cover, report contact, suppress, assess situation and act accordingly. I remember we survived and managed to flank them maybe 10 mins later.

fair play to the gpmg gunner wen he got shot, didnt make a big fuss of it and was carm.
i would of been crying like a bitch to get the medic lol

Perhaps when adrenaline kicks in and you first imagine that half of your face is off than you start to panic a bit, who knows. Anyway it sounds like they report target over the radio and thats something most sl skip when the engagement starts. If you got the radio, learn to use it and let boyz in other squads know where to point their rifles.


This is also very interesting as other stuff on this guy channel.
https://www.youtube.com/user/journeymanpictures#g/p


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2hnXgrnlUQ&feature=related


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALhU_475Oz0&feature=channel


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-w2pct5oDkU&feature=channel

Must see for all insurgents.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKlHa-J1vIQ&feature=channel

Ok, whos plaing games stoned ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2F80llZ5F4&feature=channel

I wana play Lashkar and Korengal (Vote)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZDonqtAf-8&feature=related

brilliant them vids mate, keep posting

talk about close?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbXClmJBPBU
and another - he had to fit his bayonet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uluSYyzZz_E

Here is another one... shoting..."


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cilW8ZSoQc


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6udc-7n7XA


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZatjUKbbgjA


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_14oSfJUhs

Holy s**t! Watch The Golden hour video!
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZatjUKbbgjA)

Look at that Gary sneaking in the FOB at 11:40min.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n75MDxkxOM4&feature=related


ouch"

On Afghan Jihad as they are wqalking the mountain, i swear i heard a BF2 saying, think its 'alestyin na bog'

Impressive vids.

Tank squad:

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=d0b_1187075575

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=bef_1178780965

Humvy...

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=f30_1180579911

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=59f_1190856163

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=b8623ad28d

and Thee Infantry:

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=9c2_1186635019

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=e4b6bf2af3

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=0d713c63fe

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=07f282abdd

A little off topic. Here the other day I was watching a danish stand-up comedian show. He had just had a son, and he and his wife where considering what to name him.

Here in denmark, there are certain names allowed, you just cant name you child Turuk, or CocaCola.

Yet, on the Homepage of the ministry of interior, you could look up these names.

Guess what is an accepted name.

Jihad.

Who the f**k would call their child Jihad.

Picture this, child lost in the airport, and father goes around calling out to find his son...

JIHAD??? Jihad

Come here Jihad

ive looked it up. its true....

Jihad? JIHAD?

SIR GET DOWN ON THE FLOOR WITH YOUR HANDS BEHIND YOUR HEAD!!

That sound a bit ignorant, hmm ? I know that for us, kings of the earth "Jihad" mean not so holy war but have you ever wondered what this word mean outside of western media screens?
I woudn't practice it myself but I can't see anything wrong with naming child Hope, Desteny, Hesus or Izaura...
Jihad mean litterly "to struggle", "to strive", "determined effort". Perhaps if wBush hadn't abuse usage of this word in every sentence that vaguely has something to do with othere so popular in white house word terrorist than we wouldn't panic and piss our pants when some one just caling his boy home.
And whats wrong in naming kid "to struggle" ?
For example for hebrew name Jareb meaning is "he will struggle".

Im just saying the probable response of the airport security.

maybe I dont get that comedy but the longer I think about it more I like Jihad as a name.
It stands better for my sword than Willy or Johnson

Johnson is superior, id do anything Johnson asked me. (<<<Die hard halo fan)

By the way can anyone view the golden hour video? when i try to look it says the video has been removed?

Respect

How to push nation into war:
"First make people's lives miserable. Don't let them enjoy life, destroy all the roots of enjoyment. Teach them all kinds of inhibitions. Tell them that sex is sin, love is sin. Teach them that to drink, to eat, to be merry -- these are the goals of ugly materialists. Tell them to be self-destructive. Prepare them for a kind of masochistic lifestyle in which they become ascetics and they become experts at torturing themselves. And then naturally they would like to get rid of this life as soon as possible."

Memory of a moment when the madness has stopped:
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=2e2_1283181674

Enaught of those sentiments
"The only thing you should feel when you shoot someone
...is the recoil"
I am Alchemist Alchemist
and this is Special News Report"

Adult boys are cheering up while gazing at flying, shining dicks over Sadr city.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=154_1213185865

What happens when dicks are flying back ?

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=030_1176215521

it sounds like they are giving up...
maybe they should send bunch of bf2 players instead. Just think of it, those gamers would never "fall back" and the war would end before Christmas, either way.

Here are some pr freaks on a Sunday afternoon.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=117_1201940567

TOWing them out.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=6c4_1213184371

How long does it takes to land CH47 in mountains?
Roughly over 2 minutes. Just wait, come in and sit comfortably.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=9bd_1210495735

OK Noobs, leave AT at main. I am sick of parking my car in Basrah and then finding out it was used for target practices.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=9c6_1209780080

Big juicy d**k! Bombi-d**k just after another day in the office.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=3dc_1205117463

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=3ec_1197366343

Music corner.

50. caliber symfonia, obviously anniversary.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=bdb_1196421955

and some merry lalala

lalalalala lalalalalal lalalaala

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=cca_1255432855

lalala
lalaalalal
lalalalalalaal

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=29b_1265285653

lolololol
lolooooo loloooooo loloouuuu uuu?

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=822_1259317716

I gues thats the Sport time, don't forget about fair-play!

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=9e6_1240493158

Tomorow's weather is extra bomby with a slight chance of mushroom cloud.

Good night.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=2e8_1207494274

Alchemist wrote:...

Memory of a moment when the madness has stopped:
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=2e2_1283181674

I like stories like that. Almost makes you feel the human race isn't completely doomed.

Those are rare examples really...

There are things that you can relax watching:

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=a44_1282077224

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=e78_1272869854

and there are more disturbing pictures:

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=f50_1283523504

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=0fc_1283520848

Sometimes they crossover:

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=48a_1283013771

...in this world that we live in.

Look at 4:41 what kind of gun is that?

Must be some sort of 50. Cal.

I bet they pulled it off a black hawk or something like that.

But TBH, who the f**k filmed this, and didn't pull out a 45. and put one between their eyes!?

_____________________________________

Very strange, I watched the other videos with some friends I had round the other day. None of them took interest. But for someone like me, hopefully moving on to be an officer in the army (Hopefully Air Corps), it really inspired me. The actions these people take, just because they have a passion for what is the world, their country and destroying the enemy.

And my opinion on the video about how they're killing civilians.

Too f***ing right.

If they can tell who is the Taliban and they don't blast them, and risk their bodies, how are they friendly?

To me, anyone of those civilians which is strapped and not shooting in the direction of the Taliban is an enemy.

Trying to shift the blame on to American forces AND ESPECIALLY British forces and saying "We don't want you here, you're causing more havoc" is pure BS, and anyone who says that should be put in a permanent sleep. We are helping THEM sort THEIR country out. And all we ask is a little respect. Jeez. They think they've got a hard job.

What about "The Surge", the first operation on this war and our soldiers died and got wounded daily. But they just sit there and disrespect.

__________________________________________________________________________________________

Also, on the video about the new army they're building up.

They need to put a lot more pressure on them, shout hourly zero tolerance drugs and huge punishment to those who do, just like the allied army's do.

Pretty sure its something along the lines of a ZPU-1 14.5mm anti aircraft machinegun.

http://www.militaryfactory.com/armor/detail.asp?armor_id=275

Soviet Army used them extensively in Afganistan and left a lot of em behind. The Afgani ppl stashed a lot of them then sold them back to the Taliban in recent years.

http://link.brightcove.com/services/player/bcpid62612474001?bctid=67312757001

brits setup taliban ambush

That's the way to do it, use their tactics.

But the thing is, they were too frontal in my opinion.

They should've just staked out the area and JUST used sniper fire in quick succession to remove all targets in a few seconds. Not use smoke and GPMGs to lure them in.

Alchemist wrote:Those are rare examples really...

There are things that you can relax watching:

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=a44_1282077224

Urg @ 1:29. I've been in a Jetstream doing a Dutch roll. Not a nice experience for your stomach. Some great flying though

Mad tape-measure skillz.

Check combat spread 15 - 25 m.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=00a_1274870226

A bit of positive propaganda aka Lucky goat.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=bc9_1274098545

Did I mention how deadly camels are ?

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=777_1272018901

Enzo spotted doing training O:

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=a01_1281797948

Now compare to this little lady:

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=b2e_1221196425

and why everyone calls them noobs ? ehkm

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=bf6_1282579535

But TBH, who the f**k filmed this, and didn't pull out a 45. and put one between their eyes!?

With all respect this sounds like a statement of a puppet that was fucked hard in ass with wooden stake of mumbojumbo to be pointing in the "right" direction.

_____________________________________

Very strange, I watched the other videos with some friends I had round the other day. None of them took interest. But for someone like me, hopefully moving on to be an officer in the army (Hopefully Air Corps), it really inspired me. The actions these people take, just because they have a passion for what is the world, their country and destroying the enemy.

And my opinion on the video about how they're killing civilians.

Too f***ing right.

If they can tell who is the Taliban and they don't blast them, and risk their bodies, how are they friendly?

To me, anyone of those civilians which is strapped and not shooting in the direction of the Taliban is an enemy.

Trying to shift the blame on to American forces AND ESPECIALLY British forces and saying "We don't want you here, you're causing more havoc" is pure BS, and anyone who says that should be put in a permanent sleep. We are helping THEM sort THEIR country out. And all we ask is a little respect. Jeez. They think they've got a hard job.

What about "The Surge", the first operation on this war and our soldiers died and got wounded daily. But they just sit there and disrespect.

I just can't believe what I read and it sounds serious...

Do you really think that:



1. Killing innocent people just because they are living where you decided to have a war is morally acceptable( or any other reason for that matter)?

Well, only when you are that civilian or your mother, father, sister or brother!

Who the hell give one right to decide about someone else life...oh I know, ones ego and dead empathy but be sure that even when you gloriously return from war in one peace and you lose your soul there, your life will be miserable.

You think killing is exciting ?



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMYgWBaWf74

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3ZjsC3BOBE&feature=related

Take a good look on those pictures and think about what you feel and what would you if those were your family.











How much respect would you have towards those soldiers if that would be your father lying there?





Did passing army crippled this man because he was so dangerous?





2. War is based on any Truth?

Disarming Iraq from weapons of mass destruction or rather gaining an access to reach oil reserves and establishing a foot-hole in south Asia ? hmmm



Overthrown Saddam who before was helped by west to establish his domain, ofcourse maybe he starts to think for himself or knows too much and hes uncomfortable or very comfortable indeed and in the end you wouldn't even know if that was a real one who got hanged.
This vicious terrorist attack from 9.11 can't be compared to Gulf of Tonkin incident that lead to aggression in Vietnam because this time it is about Taliban dictatorship and something did actually happened to justify war, correct me if I'm wrong.

Tell me again, why Brits are in Afghanistan? ...Don't worry, I'll wait.

You think it is a NATO operation because troops are waving NATO flags?

The North Atlantic Treaty
http://www.nato.int/cps/en/natolive/official_texts_17120.htm

"Article 5
The Parties agree that an armed attack against one or more of them in Europe or North America shall be considered an attack against them all and consequently they agree that, if such an armed attack occurs, each of them, in exercise of the right of individual or collective self-defence recognised by Article 51 of the Charter of the United Nations, will assist the Party or Parties so attacked by taking forthwith, individually and in concert with the other Parties, such action as it deems necessary, including the use of armed force, to restore and maintain the security of the North Atlantic area.

Any such armed attack and all measures taken as a result thereof shall immediately be reported to the Security Council. Such measures shall be terminated when the Security Council has taken the measures necessary to restore and maintain international peace and security .

Article 6 (1)
For the purpose of Article 5, an armed attack on one or more of the Parties is deemed to include an armed attack:

on the territory of any of the Parties in Europe or North America, on the Algerian Departments of France (2), on the territory of or on the Islands under the jurisdiction of any of the Parties in the North Atlantic area north of the Tropic of Cancer;
on the forces, vessels, or aircraft of any of the Parties, when in or over these territories or any other area in Europe in which occupation forces of any of the Parties were stationed on the date when the Treaty entered into force or the Mediterranean Sea or the North Atlantic area north of the Tropic of Cancer."



Now show me please where does Afghanistan have it's borders with North Atlantic or Mediterranean Sea...

I don't know how it was in England but Poles were strongly against sending troops to Afghanistan and politics were strongly convincing in media that we have to do it as a part of NATO obligation. I want to see those laing motherfuckers behind bars for High treason and fooling Polish army in occupation of independent state. Until this disgraceful attack Poland never waged war for profit on any nation. Shame that so many Poles have no understand of that at all. Looks like WW II machinery made its work well with exterminating intelligence and higher military culture among once great families.

So what are NATO troops doing there? That's right, they are protecting fat assets of contractors who builds Starbucks's and new roads.
How much of that cash is finding its way to the hands of Afghan people. It doesn't mater really because we will "sort them out good" so they can eat fast food and s**t ipods for the rest of their life like we do.
Perhaps father of your father worked in his father restaurant and today you can work at
Friday's but you can buy anything right?. You can buy new car from your friendly neighborhood dealer, new baby from some young unaware of life girl or herself, new liver from some poor bas***d in China, hell there are even places when they sell new soul, I wounder how does that work. Lets stuff our corrupt democracy deep inside throats of Afghan nation so there will be nothing to defend them from claws of international bankers singing happily "I gona f**k you in the ass...lalala... I gona f**k you in the ass...lalala for next 100 cenutries and you' lovin' it."



Did Russians entered Afghanistan in 1979 because they had anything to gain there?

To understand that read interview with Zbigniew Brzezinski, President Jimmy Carter's National Security Adviser:
http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/BRZ110A.html

"Q: When the Soviets justified their intervention by asserting that they intended to fight against a secret involvement of the United States in Afghanistan, people didn't believe them. However, there was a basis of truth. You don't regret anything today?

B: Regret what? That secret operation was an excellent idea. It had the effect of drawing the Russians into the Afghan trap and you want me to regret it? The day that the Soviets officially crossed the border, I wrote to President Carter. We now have the opportunity of giving to the USSR its Vietnam war. Indeed, for almost 10 years, Moscow had to carry on a war unsupportable by the government, a conflict that brought about the demoralization and finally the breakup of the Soviet empire."

I can't confirm that but I heard that originally Al-Quaida was a list of CIA agents that were training Mujahideen anti-communistic movement in early 80', how would this fit to the whole picture?

From Brzezninski last book "American Primacy And It's Geostrategic Imperatives":
"Moreover, as America becomes an increasingly multi-cultural society, it may find it more difficult to fashion a consensus on foreign policy issues, except in the circumstance of a truly massive and widely perceived direct external threat." (p. 211)

Guess who's one of Obama's top advisor's today.
http://www.vidoosh.tv/play.php?vid=2066

Isn't that pretty terrifying already? Only lies, lies, lies and thats even whitout going in to why WW I and II started and who gain most from it...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lk2nB81iRs&feature=related

Some say religion is the reason for this war.
Where in its basic teaching Koran is different from Bible? How come that interpretations of those books coming from so called leaders are filed with hatred and justified racism. It is not religion at all, it is all politic.
Imagine Augustin monks teaching Islam in North Africa, no why would they do that and if it has anything to do with those uncompromising Christians of Arabic and African descend who refused to join the Constantinean church (or so called Roman
Catholicism) who were named as Donatists by St. Augustin when he was appointed bishop for North Africa ? I don't know it's too old think about, not entertaining at all, I got bills to pay and a candle to burn. d:



"One of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors." – Platon

Unfortunately those are very smart people out there ruling and they make sure there is not real competition for them what so ever.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4z5syBb0r18



3. We are so safe in Europe, that our law, our profesional armies will protect us.



I wonder what 8372 Bosniak men and boys massacred in Srebrenica in 1995 would say about that. UN forces stood behind walls of fob and watched it all happened right in the middle of their designated "safe area".



Europeans have no true will to fight any war. Too tired after last "great one". What have international community done for people in Rwanda dooring 100 days of genocide in 1994? UN forces were ordered to back from the area, thats what happened.

Almost every village looked like this:





Guy who was taking those pictures never shook up from what he saw there and died at the age of 41 due to complications from posttraumatic stress disorder.

France recently send away few hundreds of Roma Gypsies who gain ability to travel freely over the Europe when their country joined EU, how many of them will be back in France before Christmas? What do you expect will happen after Turkey joins in? Turkey would be the second largest country (and perhaps eventually the largest with its much higher growth rate) in the EU and would have considerable influence in the population-based European Parliament.

How long it took to bring Greece to the ruin after joining EU? I always though Greeks are so relaxed people.



So for how long this union can hold together and who will pay for those armies ?

What when National Debt exceed itself so much ahead of even the luckiest income rate predictions that life of poor consumer become miserable far beyond any form of hunger that you curently know?
Will people go on the street and army against them ?

There are still some scares that couse a lot of hatered.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYJ_blbyAvs&feature=related

Would you come to my house and put me in a permanent sleep because I find no reason why those occupying forces deserved for respect? Individuals, yes some of them do but as an aggression nations they are all covered in shame.

Sorry for the history lesson, no offence meant.
Think about it but don't take me too seriously.

A lot of your post seems Irrelevant to me. I am not taking side on whether the war is wrong or right, and whether what has been said is the truth. I am only a 16 year old student. The above matters are for the "Big Dogs" to decide, even if it doesn't make a difference and you're just wasting your time deciding whether it's right or wrong. If they haven't decided to pull out already, then they wont untill our casualties are so low that it's almost impossible to even start war let alone maintain it.

My opinion was that if a Civilian is concealing a weapon in their house/compound/body/shop or WHEREVER. They know where THE ENEMY is, an enemy to both them and us, and they aren't telling us or shooting them? Then essentially you need to take this picture...


But replace all the troops with two Taliban and one "Civilian" who have basically pined that troop against a wall. This soldier isn't JUST trying to live like their civilians are, they are also trying to fix their country. Yes YOU and those civilians AND the Taliban can be mad at the governments choices, by all means please do... But you have NO right WHAT so ever to say that those soldiers are the lowest from that selection of people. They are gods. Serving their country and getting taken from this world by some cowardly and pathetic civilian who will not raise a finger.

Same here, no offence meant, no offence taken.

great pics looked like you been doing research (careful you dont get arrested looking at that stuff),end of the day humans are a warlike people its in our nature as seen in the last few thousand years(you ever hung out with england fans when we lose a game of footie, its guarenteed to kick off). on another note some people only respect the whip rather than the carrot, and unless you truely understand how most middle eastern countries work its very hard to comment ,i mean that the saying "my enemys enemy is my ally/friend" . most of these places work on tribe-religion-then patriotism in that order and while we are on this matter what about the class system in india and them poor tibeten monks .


and on a more serious note Alchemist if you are free could you run for our prime minister cause the current 1 is as *£cked as the last

LMFAO.

"and on a more serious note Alchemist if you are free could you run for our prime minister cause the current 1 is as *£cked as the last"

+10 haha.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohXsdbF-7jc
btw anyone heard of "new wolrld order"(NWO)?

The wrestling team. Yes. Hahaa

God. How childhood stays with you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXMjh_XbkiI
-pwned, allah akbar, hey wtf? hax!

A lot of your post seems Irrelevant to me. I am not taking side on whether the war is wrong or right, and whether what has been said is the truth. I am only a 16 year old student. The above matters are for the "Big Dogs" to decide, even if it doesn't make a difference and you're just wasting your time deciding whether it's right or wrong. If they haven't decided to pull out already, then they wont untill our casualties are so low that it's almost impossible to even start war let alone maintain it.

You are only 16 huh, not buying the truth, is see... Perhaps read that post in 5 years, maybe things would make more connections then... If not, you can always try in 50 but don't worry as we have all the time in the world and I have been selfish too, I used this time and space to speak and shake off some burden of gilt for doing nothing to easier the fall.
Every healthy nose in universe can feel that war is wrong, no need to discuss that and nobody is.
This is a matter closer to your own teenage ass than you might first think. As it is deep in debt my young friend.

http://www.debtbombshell.com/

"The Office for Budget Responsibility (OBR) predicts that household debt will be Ł1,823bn by end 2015 which is a growth of Ł159m a day. This would take the average household debt to Ł72,341 per household."
http://www.creditaction.org.uk/debt-statistics/2010/october-2010.html

Think Greece, sun, beaches, bikinis, think again!





















I guess it is still hot there.















Interesting is usage of laser.





Any way Greece is absolutely tight to EU money and can not live without it.
How would you feel if you were a Greek and learned that year before this crisis to life came secret agency, so secret I don't know how I know about it, designed to work out procedures for time when one of euro zone countries bankrupts.

"BRUSSELS—Two months after Lehman Brothers collapsed in the fall of 2008, a small group of
European leaders set up a secret task force—one so secret that they dubbed it "the group that doesn't exist.""

The team was only elite: Mr. Sarkozy, Ms. Merkel, close advisers of Jean-Claude Juncker Prime Minister of Luxembourg and President of the Eurogroup, European Committee and of course "All Powerful" The European Central Bank. Nope, Brits weren't included on the guest list.

In short Germans were opposing but all others together decided to put Greece in to even greater debt and completely destroy what left from Greece economy. In the end only bankers know how much money you can barrow. Read about it from Wall Street Journal:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703467004575464113605731560.html

My opinion was that if a Civilian is concealing a weapon in their house/compound/body/shop or WHEREVER. They know where THE ENEMY is, an enemy to both them and us, and they aren't telling us or shooting them? Then essentially you need to take this picture...

I disagree, I believe man should brake no law in attempt to self defend and it is painful to see how European nations are disarmed. Basically only few thousand hundreds have access to firearms legally excluding law enforcement and army.



Dying culture as ours is rather in it's senses being afraid of weapons because people so riped of their humanity are rather unsafe neighbors to coegsist. Well I would lie if I said I do not have a dream...who cares anyway but life need some discipline and there are still martial arts to master for those interested. Funny those are things that people done to survive against evilly organized nasty sword waving self-called leaders. Todays crime have face of friendly looking man in a suit so fist aren't that efective any more.

But replace all the troops with two Taliban and one "Civilian" who have basically pined that
troop against a wall. This soldier isn't JUST trying to live like their civilians are, they are also trying to fix their country.

I would ask what do you mean by "fix" but i sense way to much games influence. You want to tell me that "civilian" and two of his Taliban friends who stash their AK's in their asses traveled to Great Britain to pin down soldier when he was peacefully going to buy some milk for breakfast. O: ?

Now replace all those people with Micky mouse and Pocahontas.
This Micky isn't JUST trying to fix his d**k in Pocahontas vagina, he actually takes his time to explain to her why it is good to have Micky's d**k in her vagina. Micki gently lubricates and doesn't save effort and he is even borrowing money from Scrooge McDuck for more lubricant. Goofy and Donald (funny the name of polish prime minister is same) will have to pay it back later working in lubricant factory but just think about those picture of naked young horny juicy hontasgirl they will have in return, Yummy.

Remind me again what your nation gained from this war. As a one of so terrorized people are you feeling any safer now ?

Yes YOU and those civilians AND the Taliban can be mad at the governments choices, by all means please do...

I am not mad as I don't live in fear but I am surprised that you think Taliban would disapprove current situation. I honestly think they are even less mad than I would be which means they are actually happy.

most of these places work on tribe-religion-then patriotism in that order and while we are on this matter what about the class system in india and them poor tibeten monks .

Exactly like this. India and Tibet have difficult problems as well worth understanding but first:
Who are the Talibans ?

"The Taliban movement is primarily made up of members belonging to ethnic Pashtun tribes, along with volunteers from nearby Islamic countries"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taliban

Pashtuns are majority in Afghanistan, they believe that the control over country belongs to them and they will not support any other prime minister than one that is fully Pashtun tribe.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pashtun_people

Dr. Abdullah Abdullah who was an independent candidate in the 2009 Afghan presidential election and came in second place claimed that in some Pashtun controlled zones he was not on the voting cards at all. Now that a democracy right there, palpably it would help if Dr. Abdullah hadn't had his roots in Pashtun-Tajik ethnic group.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pashtun_tribes#P


"Western forces has achieved big success securing the election and Talibans failed to destabilize situation..."WTF? They just got their respected Pashtun leader elected! So what? Troops will go home, war is over? Drugs are still going to be smuggled but now somehow legally done by secret service, eee Who will be this new ruling elite?
Even Washington admits, there is no alternative for Durrani Pashtun prime minister Hamid
Karzaj and what about all this thinks Hamid ? Who knows but here are some facts:

"Soviet war in Afghanistan
Karzai was involved in helping to provide financial and military support for the Mujahideen during the 1980s Soviet war in Afghanistan. The Mujahideen were secretly supplied and funded by the United States, Pakistan and Saudi Arabia, and Karzai was a contact for the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) at the time."

Pretty interesting connections I would say.

"Taliban era
American Special Forces and Hamid Karzai during Operation Enduring Freedom in October 2001.When the Taliban emerged in the mid 1990s, Karzai, like many other Afghans, supported them, because he saw them as a force that could finally end the violence and corruption in his country. However, he later broke with them and refused to serve as their ambassador to the United Nations, telling friends he felt that the Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) was wrongly using them. Karzai stated that "there were many wonderful people in the Taliban.""

Sure they were...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamid_Karzai

But you have NO right WHAT so ever to say that those soldiers are the lowest from that selection of people.

I believe I have right to say what I want but please quote where I diminish value of those soldiers lives.

They are gods.

Apparently you know nothing about gods and if I am wrong so tell me whats is one similar thing about moon, terrorism and money... Don't worry I'll wait.
What we have left here in Europe that is so precious worth dying for? there is no God in our everyday life like some of Muslims still have, there is no Truth in our actions as we don't care anymore, all we have in common is constantly growing debt proportional to our imagination of constantly growing society or should I rather say own ego? Only one hope that my carrier is so full of money...
Lets gaze at money for a moment, understanding here is imperative.
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-2550156453790090544#

Serving their country and getting taken from this world by some cowardly and pathetic civilian who will not raise a finger.

Same here, no offence meant, no offence taken.

The question about the picture wasn't if they are doing what they are supposed to do but how would you feel in this man place, simple.
You were screaming for respect but based on what? No matter what uniform you are wearing if you are not fighting to defend your people, for their good only and truth that is your moral spine than you are not a soldier but a mercenary killing for money.

I remind you that you, your friends and family are also civilians that you call pathetic and it so happens that war doesn't seems to pick on age or nationality that often. I wouldn't be so sure that war is major part of our nature as my study show me differently but it is clear that from some reasons we have been engaged in a struggle for about that much as the oldest stories written by the man can reach. How wonderful we can destroy and create and how foolish we only use those powers to spreed evil. How hard is to separate one from another, honestly ?

In the end who gained most on conflict in Afghanistan? Surprisingly involved Governments because they gained some irreplaceable experience dealing with so called insurgents and trained great deal of spec ops units.

"Afghanistan has been called "the Commando Olympics," because so many nations have contingents there. While the different commando organizations aren't competing with each other, they are performing similar missions, using slightly different methods and equipment. Naturally, everyone compares notes and makes changes based on combat experience. That's the draw for commandoes, getting and using "combat experience." Training is great, but there's nothing like operating against an armed and hostile foe. This is all a real big thing, as the participating commandoes are becoming a lot more effective. But you can't get a photograph of this increased capability, and the commandoes aren't talking to the press. So it's all a big story you'll never hear much about, except in history books, many years from now."
http://www.strategypage.com/htmw/htsf/articles/20060329.aspx

History is patient and waits for next moment to proves its integrity. Its only matter of how and when another great war occurs, this will be war of special forces and I am only worried of who will they fight against.

http://www.strategypage.com/military_photos/military_photos_20100919203157.aspx

I bet this cute Chinese chick is lethal.



On the other hand I was wondering some time ago what would save all those citizens of USA drowning in debt almost in half owned by Chinese if PLA would deploy its 1st ranked 2,255,000 soldiers backed up by 1,200,000 of reserve personnel against 549,015 active personnel and 563,688 reserve and National Guard personnel in order to retrieve value of the debt. In May 2009, the US owed China $772 billion. Maybe its good time to start learning some mandarin d:



Anyway Blitz I am really busy being selfish so sorry can't help now (:

"No matter what uniform you are wearing if you are not fighting to defend your people, for their good only and truth that is your moral spine than you are not a soldier but a mercenary killing for money."

Foreign policy has NEVER been this easy, unlike your argument which is over simplified in the extreme.

Britain declared war with Nazi Germany over your country Poland, are you really saying that the 100,000's of British, American etc etc, airmen, soldiers and sailors that sacrificed their lives where Mercenaries ? (of course your not)

this whole subject is far to complicated to be discussed over a Gaming Clan's web site, nothing will come of all this but bad feeling, for every argument there is a counter argument with as much validity.

oh, and your pic's of Greece look like any standard 18-30 holiday....

speed

speedhound1-WYD- wrote: Foreign policy has NEVER been this easy, unlike your argument which is over simplified in the extreme.

Britain declared war with Nazi Germany over your country Poland, are you really saying that the 100,000's of British, American etc etc, airmen, soldiers and sailors that sacrificed their lives where Mercenaries ? (of course your not)

With no doubt there is a lot more than meets the eye.
Sometimes “Nothing is true, but that which is simple.”

Britain did not declared war because wanted to gain influence over Nazi Germany but by force and obligation of alliance.

"...in the event of any action which clearly threatened Polish independence, and which the Polish Government accordingly considered it vital to resist with their national forces, His Majesty's Government would feel themselves bound at once to lend the Polish Government all support in their power. They have given the Polish Government an assurance to this effect.
I may add that the French Government have authorised me to make it plain that they stand in the same position in this matter as do His Majesty's Government"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-Polish_military_alliance

German invasion began on 1 September 1939. 3 Sep. England and France declared war on Germany called also Phoney War. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoney_War
17 Sep. USSR declares war on Poland. Did Britain entered in war with Russia than?
In May 4, 1940 in Paris a secret protocol was added to the alliance treaty which stated "European Power" mean only Germany as Britain and France did not wanted war with USSR.

Would I call some one who honors an agreement by acting accordingly an mercenary? No, I would definitely name them truthful but those Nazi Germany troop despiting superior training I wouldn't recognize as soldiers.

And I strongly disagree Speed as there is nothing wrong in siting down and having a little chat no mater the place. Put light on things adding the perspective and for credit those are not my pictures.

This is why mortar round have to be accurate:

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=a1f_1272902903

and also why soldiers carry shovel and maniacally dig holes on battlefield.
Yes, that guy survived :O

For some armies like ANA mortar and SPG is still in use.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=6fc_1283491638

Al la la la la la...

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=7e1_1281517533

There is nothing like landing on a knife edge:

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=f2e_1217449177

You got to love those Chinooks:

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=937_1269401368

Simply insane maneuverability:

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=f92_1221030909

Perfect parking:

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=f7b_1246717444

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWGqIDNAohI&feature=related

lmfao look at him in at 1:09 ::
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_CITZ6irtUc&feature=related

Afghan hash is famous in the world... :E

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTAdWvv92Cs
now imagine 4 gangstas in hydraulic lowrider driving through in Afghanistan

just another day at pr...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPFWOhkMASY&feature=fvw

HK416 vs M4 test: M4 fails.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjMH94PuT_I&feature=related

Dont get ya M4 wet.